Clapper Reads From the Bush/Cheney/Nixon Playbook to Fear-Monger Over Transparency

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Featured photo - Clapper Reads From the Bush/Cheney/Nixon Playbook to Fear-Monger Over Transparency Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2014, before the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing (AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke)

James Clapper, President Obama’s top national security official, is probably best known for having been caught lying outright to Congress about NSA activities, behavior which (as some baseball players found outhappens to be a felony under federal law. But – like torturers and Wall Street tycoons before him – Clapper has been not only shielded from prosecution, and not only allowed to keep his job; he has has now been anointed the arbiter of others’ criminality, as he parades around the country calling American journalists “accomplices”. Yesterday, as Wired’s Dave Kravets reports, the “clearly frustrated” Clapper went before a Senate committee (different than the one he got caught lying to) to announce that the Snowden disclosures are helping the terrorists:

We’re beginning to see changes in the communications behavior of adversaries: particularly terrorists. A disturbing trend, which I anticipate will continue . . . Terrorists and other adversaries of this country are going to school on U.S. intelligence sources, methods, and tradecraft. And the insights they’re gaining are making our job in the intelligence community much, much harder. And this includes putting the lives of members or assets of the intelligence community at risk, as well as those of our armed forces, diplomats, and our citizens.

As Kravets notes, “Clapper is not the most credible source on Snowden and the NSA leaks.” Moreover, it’s hardly surprising that Clapper is furious at these disclosures given that “Snowden’s very first leak last June” – revelation of the domestic surveillance program – “had the side-effect of revealing that Clapper had misled the public and Congress about NSA spying.” And, needless to say, Clapper offered no evidence at all to support his assertions yesterday; he knows that, unlike Kravets, most establishment media outlets will uncritically trumpet his claims without demanding evidence or even noting that he has none.

But in general, it’s hardly surprising that national security officials claim that unwanted disclosures help terrorists. Fear-mongering comes naturally to those who wield political power. Particularly in post-9/11 America, shouting “terrorists!” has been the favorite tactic of the leadership of both parties to spread fear and thus induce submission.

In a recent New York Times op-ed detailing how exploitation of terrorism fears is the key to sustaining the modern surveillance state, Northwestern University Philosophy Professor Peter Ludlow wrote that “since 9/11 leaders of both political parties in the United States have sought to consolidate power by leaning … on the danger of a terrorist attack”. He recounted that ”Machiavelli notoriously argued that a good leader should induce fear in the populace in order to control the rabble” and that “Hobbes in ‘The Leviathan’ argued that fear effectively motivates the creation of a social contract in which citizens cede their freedoms to the sovereign.” It would be surprising if people like Clapper didn’t do this.

But what has struck me is how seriously many media figures take this claim. In the vast majority of interviews I’ve done about NSA reporting, interviewers adopt a grave tone in their voice and trumpet the claims from U.S. officials that our reporting is helping the terrorists. They treat these claims as though they’re the by-product of some sort of careful, deliberative, unique assessment rather than what it is: the evidence-free tactics national security state officials reflexively invoke to discredit all national security journalism they dislike. Let’s review a bit of history to see how true that is.

Here, for instance, is Dick Cheney, in a June, 2006 speech, condemning The New York Times for its reporting on the NSA warrantless eavesdropping and SWIFT banking programs, sounding exactly like James Clapper yesterday, along with countless Democratic commentators and blogs over the last year:

Some in the press, in particular The New York Times, have made it harder to defend America against attack by insisting on publishing detailed information about vital national security programs.

First they reported the terrorist surveillance program, which monitors international communications when one end is outside the United States and one end is connected with or associated with al Qaeda. Now the Times has disclosed the terrorist financial tracking program.

On both occasions, the Times had been asked not to publish those stories by senior administration officials. They went ahead anyway. The leaks to The New York Times and the publishing of those leaks is very damaging to our national security.

The ability to intercept al Qaeda communications and to track their sources of financing are essential if we’re going to successfully prosecute the global war on terror. Our capabilities in these areas help explain why we have been so successful in preventing further attacks like 9/11. And putting this information on the front page makes it more difficult for us to prevent future attacks. Publishing this highly classified information about our sources and methods for collecting intelligence will enable the terrorists to look for ways to defeat our efforts. These kinds of stories also adversely affect our relationships with people who work with us against the terrorists. In the future, they will be less likely to cooperate if they think the United States is incapable of keeping secrets.

Cheney was joined by George Bush, who called the NYT’s reporting “disgraceful” and said: “The fact that a newspaper disclosed it makes it harder to win this war on terror.” Bush White House spokesman Tony Snow added: “In choosing to expose this program, despite repeated pleas from high-level officials on both sides of the aisle, including myself, the Times undermined a highly successful counterterrorism program and alerted terrorists to the methods and sources used to track their money trail.”

Bush made exactly the same accusations in 2005 as Clapper did yesterday after the NYT back then (finally) revealed the NSA’s warrantless eavesdropping program. “My personal opinion is it was a shameful act for someone to disclose this very important program in a time of war. The fact that we’re discussing this program is helping the enemy….It is a shameful act by somebody who has got secrets of the United States government and feels like they need to disclose them publicly.” A week later, Bush officials announced a criminal investigation of the leaks and said: “Our enemies have learned information they should not have, and the unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk. Revealing classified information is illegal, alerts our enemies, [and] endangers our country.”

Meanwhile, the GOP-led House actually passed a formal resolution condemning the NYT and “call[ing] on news organizations to avoid exposing Americans ‘to the threat of further terror attacks” by revealing U.S. government methods of tracking terrorists.” Then House Majority Leader John Boehner said: “We’ve just tipped off all of the terrorists around the world that here is another way that we could have caught you, but now you know about it.” Rep. Mike Oxley, the GOP Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, called the paper’s reporting “treasonous”, saying: “We are at war, ladies and gentlemen. Now some of you folks find that an inconvenient fact.” GOP Congressman Peter King called for the prosecution of the Times journalists and editors responsible for the stories – “We’re at war, and for the Times to release information about secret operations and methods is treasonous,” he said – just as he’s done for journalists involved in the current NSA reporting.

These same platitudes have been hauled out by U.S. officials for decades. When Daniel Ellsberg disclosed the Pentagon Papers, Nixon officials repeatedly smeared him - with no evidence – as likely working in conjunction with Russia (sound familiar?), while he and the NYT were repeatedly accused of damaging national security, putting our men and women in uniform in harm’s way, and helping America’s enemies.

Political officials hate transparency.They would rather be able to hide what they’re doing. They therefore try to demonize those who impose transparency with the most extreme and discrediting accusations they can concoct (you’re helping terrorists kill Americans!). The more transparency one imposes on them, the more extreme and desperate this accusatory rhetoric becomes. This is not complicated. It’s all very basic.

James Clapper is saying exactly what Dick Cheney and George Bush before him said, and those three said what John Ehrlichman and Henry Kissinger said before them about Ellsberg. It’s all spouted with no evidence. It’s rote and reflexive. It’s designed to smear and fear-monger. As Professor Ludlow notes, “Fear is even used to prevent us from questioning the decisions supposedly being made for our safety.”

Maybe it’s time for journalists to cease being the leading advocates for state secrecy and instead take seriously their claimed role as watchdogs. At the very least, demand evidence before these sorts of highly predictable, cliched attacks are heralded as something to be taken seriously. As it is, they’re just cartoons: ones that are played over and over and over.

Murtaza Hussain contributed research and reporting.

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  1. Great stuff here, I am obsessed with Firstlook.org! What a website! You are doing what is right and what the media and journalists used to do in this country and that was report the truth. Now we get the establishments truth and that’s it, until now, now that we have Firstlook. Thanks for your hard work! To the NSA analyst who is spying on this website right now, eat sh1t and die!

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  3. Quoted here: “since 9/11 leaders of both political parties in the United States have sought to consolidate power by leaning … on the danger of a terrorist attack”…. Our capabilities in these areas help explain why we have been so successful in preventing further attacks like 9/11.

    Quoted in Chris Hedges article Lynne Stewart Tell ChrisHedges “Every Little bit heals”.

    “The climate in the nation’s courtrooms charged irrevocably after 9/11, she said.” (quote from ]

    9/11 was/is THE event that has signed, sealed and delivered us 1984. What is crucial is that this event be revisited and the case reopened to expose the inconsistencies between the official report and the work of thousands of engineers and architects. If it is revealed that 9/11 was a false flag then every right that has been stripped from us must be restored as the foundation of these unconstitutional changes crumbles…this revelation will unite a movement for justice from Americans. The fact that Jon Stewart, Bill Maher and even our most trusted progressives all of whom I love and deeply respect…. Amy Goodman, Chris Hedges, Glenn Greenwald…won’t touch this story and this causes great alarm. There is currently a campaign to educate people that building 7 was not hit by a plane but somehow went down in a free fall collapse when polls revealed that most Americans don’t even remember or realize this fact. Billboards went up in NYC/ Times Square and yet no progressive investigative journalist will cover this ongoing story of the grassroots investigation by credentialed, concerned citizens. Amy Goodman has been approached many times and she runs from the question. A poll revealed that people across the globe believe that 9/11 was an inside job…proving the importance of a new investigation in either case. There are close to 50 documentaries (top documentaryfilms.com) that have been made outlining the suspect aspects of 9/11…to ignore all of this thoughtful work and to dismiss it as ‘fringe crazy’ is to refuse to do any critical investigative journalism …and that should be our biggest concern.

  4. hey wth ppl doesn’t he have grandchildren have some respect, at least one just to show.

  5. You have supposedly 50,000 Snowden “documents” and yet your Documents “tab” is empty. Why don’t you release docs to the public?

    • Yes because you’d definitely along with the rest of us read the 50.000. documents(!) That would just be an overload of information which would not have any effect of being released because no one will be able to be process it. There’s a reason the news needs editors and isn’t just randomly put together. #commonsense

  6. Mr. Clapper was telling the truth (for a change) when he said that the revelations helped the enemy since the US corporate government considers the US citizen the enemy.

  7. Glenn, I think it would be useful to add as an update to this article some evidence that these kinds of disclosures do not, in fact, lead to counterterrorism efforts becoming more difficult.

    Of course, I realise that in any civilised country the burden of proof would be on Clapper and his ilk to demonstrate that leaks materially harmed national security, but it would buttress your argument even further.

    Thanks for the great work, as always. Not sure why this website seems to be attracting so much vicious hate, but fuck the haters, you’re doing vital work.

  8. The headlines for the articles should be shorter, snappier, easier to take in quickly.

    Thank you so much for working on all this material and reporting on it.

  9. Seems the only evidence Greenwald has that Clapper was lying was that Greenwald doesn’t believe him.

    If you can’t understand the context of the question, and then the context of the answer to fit the context of that question, you are either a complete, utter IDIOT, or a hair-brained Libertarian hell-bent on removing oversight and setting the billionaire wolves loose on the populous.

    Greenwald, having dabbled in law, knows full well the vagueness of the question and would have answered in such vagueness.

    This truly is the Leftwing TeaParty. Congrats.

    • Even the brothel employees could discern that Clapper lied to Congress. Go back to sleep now, you obviously have nothing to hide — especially a brain or even passing familiarity with the Constitution or intelligence collection and analysis.

    • There is no evidence other than the video on youtube of him doing it. Someone asked are you spying on americans, “he said NO” <LIE Have you been eating those government stupid pills?

  10. Come on guys, we all know these ‘pols and bureaucrats are clowns. Always have been; always will be. Let’s find a cage in a sideshow for them, give them gainful employment where they can’t do harm, and move on.

  11. If you looked out the peephole on your front door and there stood Clapper at 3 AM, you’d reel in fear and reach for a gun … with good cause. Have you noted how many government representatives make Freddy Kruger look like a terry bear? When you gaze upon such human atrocities as Nixon, Chaney, Christy, Cruze and their prolific ilk, doesn’t common sense and keen intuition scream, “DANGER!!”

    • When I gaze on the “Human atrocities” you describe, I feel an abiding sorrow for their parents…

  12. The average person lies 8 times a day. However with politicians/officials/news anchors I observed its a lot more. It’s on the news It must be true. We live in a very funny narcissistic time. These guys want to play out a script written a long time ago. Hiding underground they won’t escape As Black Elk said 30-40 yrs ago…I like to think its true

    • The average person lies 8 times a day? Don’t know where you hang out, but you need to surround yourself with a higher class of associates.

  13. If NSA is following me on Google Earth, they might see a weird pattern I keep stumbling upon.

    I’m just sussing out historical ruins along the old familiar Siegfreid Line where I might find a bite to eat and sleep cyborgia style, but who’s this Johann Georg August Wirth who’s sticking out a sore thumb on my volksmarch along the Romanic Blies?

    I’m looking for the ancients, but the middle agers keep spreckening. He resounds like my kinda Herman. Get your monarchical hands off of the truth! And give the press a break before it breaks you, too! Paper Wars. Wirth would be wheeling with delight at our light sabers. Roll on, Georg.

    • He’s only a hundred and fifty years dead so I’m sorry to toss him in with the witch hunters. That was so OVER by his time. But anytime is capable of repeating itself. Hopefully this madness too shall pass.

  14. Curious on a legal point.

    Clapper and others in uniform have many times committed unlawful command influence by making careless (or are their predictive?) dictations of his guilt and punishment publically. Are they simply making way for him to legally escape their lawless grips and avoid their own bum exposures at trial? Or do they anticipate killing him without trial and conviction as they are so drone to do? One suggests they still observe the law and anticipate it hanging around while the second suggests they already hanged it.

  15. Clapper is a sad example of witch hunting gone haywire. Did we know 30 to 1, witches burned globally along side heretics who were at least given a clerical review? This is a hundred years after printing presses, so it may have amplified the hysteria rather than reduced it. Not just for hayseeds, whole towns could get down with a good riddance. Clapper’s out to beat the band into order because he’s losing it.

    After a few decades, folks began to cautiously question if they’d not lost their grip on legality, much less reality. Of course, that could get you burned at the stake without a trial, but we trudged onward against the flames. The more we demanded a fair trial, the less witches appeared. As if by magic.

    I don’t care if I get burned, i’m doing this for the NEXT generation so they don’t have to live with ignorant witch hunters trashing their square dances.

  16. quote:”As it is, they’re just cartoons:”unquote
    Yeah, US “Intellegence”= a cast of characters right out of Loony Toons … aka Clapper. What a maroon.
    Not to mention “General Alexander”..hahahahaha! Who needs cartoons when we have characters wearing uniforms that look like Barnum & Baily clowns. I mean, get a load of that chest full of “medals”. Someone help me off the floor. Bozo must be green with envy.

  17. The government is a joke. This guy lies to Congress gets caught, violates the Constitutuion, keeps his job, and to boot people still listen to him. How is it that Congress would listen to him? Why even ask him anything he a he lies. In my personal life if you lie to me once. I no longer believe anything you say. The federal government lied and got 58,000 Americans killed in NAM for a lie. After that they are capable of lying about anything. Its all theater. Yet much of the public still believes the daily crap,it makes me sick

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  19. the man lies to Congress and spied on the AMerican people. this makes him a traitor . Nothing in this country is going to change until we start removing the traitors from the government

  20. With all of these threats against them, I wonder that the NYT and WaPo and other big papers don’t become more adversarial. It is a slippery slope for them when they pretty much acquiesce to these significant attacks on their ability to do reporting. Surely they can see that those in power want to turn them into de facto government organs. Perhaps they are thinking that if the government uses people like Greenwald as scapegoats, then they will be safe. But their only recourse is to stand together with all journalists. They must not let the age old tactic of divide and conquer work.

  21. The ‘establishment’ of both Parties is clearly taking this nation down the path of fascism and authoritarianism.

    The 14 defining characteristics of fascism:
    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause – The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
    4. Supremacy of the Military – Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
    5. Rampant Sexism – The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
    6. Controlled Mass Media – Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
    7. Obsession with National Security – Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
    to the government’s policies or actions.
    9. Corporate Power is Protected – The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
    10. Labor Power is Suppressed – Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts – Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment – Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption – Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    14. Fraudulent Elections – Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

    “Fascism should rightly be called corporatism, as it is a merger of corporations with the State.”~Benito Mussolini

    • Hey bro! I used to post at HuffPo as ‘Yermammy’ but I’m known everywhere where else as this- Titonwan – Lakota for ‘People of the Mountains’. Good to see you here, compadre. Glenn is da man. (and so is Laura, Jeremy et alia!)

    • A solid description of what is going on today. It is clearly apparent that we are in the grip of a
      Gilded Age II Plutocracy complete with robber barons and media whores following all the tactics and strategies of fascism, especially in the relentless attacks on dissidents exercising their political free speech and voter parlticipation rights.

    • After instigating an emergency state by throwing a well coordinated march cum riot, the fascist Croix de Feu veterans militia insinuated themselves into the French emergency state security machine and with industrially financed wagons rolled the terrified country side toward Vichy faster than Hitler could dream of having done.

      In 1935, the CF’s were confronted by Leftists outside a Limoge theatre which only got police and their opponents shot dead. The Croix de Feu emerged without a singe to roll the countryside teaching communal farmers to see the Reich. “RUN, SHOSHANNA!” No one was held to account.

      November of 1935, the Croix de Feu officially declared themselves CORPORATISTS to put down ugly rumors of the militia being fascist. Sacre blue!! I’ll tell you about the Tabu some other time.

  22. Clapper should be in prison along with the rest of the Bush-Cheney-Obama crowd.

  23. NY Times has another Snowden revelation, this time about NSA and economic espionage (written by Poitras and RIsen), if you haven’t seen it today.


    Double whammy here, because not only were they spying on trade negotiations in the name of Protecting Us From Terra, but on a US law firm representing them. The duty of confidentiality is a very big deal in legal ethics, if only because if you want clients they’re going to have to trust you to keep their confidence in confidence.

    The spying on terraist organizations like Petrobras and the EU embassy is already a matter of record, of course.

      • People need to really understand something in all this, many are asleep, but over the past 5 years or so on different documents that have appeared,almost every single American could be a terrorist. They have some pretty silly things on lists that could make you a terrorist. Only Rand Paul has spoken up about it. One of them is if you have more than 7 days of food in your house.

        • I’ve got an epics worth of bottled roux, what the hell could that mean? I’m planning a French revolt party? My father in law had dementia. He left it to me. I know it’s not foreign unless you find Cajuns suspect. He bought a case of it. No way anyone can make that much gumbo in a lifetime. And I’m not that French.

    • The U.S. Government’s arrogance is catching up with them largely due to the endemic corruption in almost every department of government, and no oversight by Congress to even attempt to correct these problems, and the total incompetence of the State Department who has for a long time now worked almost exclusively in the service of private U.S. Corporations to grease the skids. I noticed a story this week that seems to indicate that Angela Merkel of Germany is still incensed over our countries monitoring of her cell phone calls and is in discussions with partnering countries in Europe to establish a separate communications network that is inaccessible by the United States. Even Afghanistan is kicking us out now as our rein of terror against their population has canceled out any modest humanitarian efforts we may have provided. As retired conservative economist Dr. Paul C. Roberts has said many times, American hegemony has blinded Washington, and their corporate masters, to the reality that you can’t dump on the rest of the free world and expect them to just sit by and take it. Given our persistent Cold War mentality, we are rapidly isolating ourselves from emerging economies on other continents who are being subsidized by our former manufacturing capability and those countries have a combined military capability that easily matches the destructive capability of the U.S. military. Europe and Asia have battled fascism in their own back yards in the past and their not going to let the current authoritarian government of the U.S. once again use their countries to wage hostilities whose sole purpose is to generate massive profits for U.S. and British mega banks. Seventy years after World War II and we’ve learned nothing. Given the current corporate owned main stream media propaganda fed to the U.S. Population, there’s little hope for a positive outcome this time !

    • Well, they’re reporting more than “The Intercept” from the “Snowden documents.”

      Like I said, $250,000,000 doesn’t go as far as it used to.

  24. Yesterday, Patrick Leahy was on VPR. When asked about Clapper lying to congress, Leahy said that Clapper should not be prosecuted because he later changed his testimony. That is the kind of mealy-mouthed rationale being offered by the senator who is sponsoring legislation that will supposedly reign in the NSA. No one in DC wants change. Roll the guillotines.

  25. “Political officials hate transparency.”



    How Obama Officials Cried ‘Terrorism’ to Cover Up a Paperwork Error

    “After seven years of litigation, two trips to a federal appeals court and $3.8 million worth of lawyer time, the public has finally learned why a wheelchair-bound Stanford University scholar was cuffed, detained and denied a flight from San Francisco to Hawaii: FBI human error.

    FBI agent Kevin Kelley was investigating Muslims in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2004 when he checked the wrong box on a terrorism form, erroneously placing Rahinah Ibrahim on the no-fly list.

    What happened next was the real shame. Instead of admitting to the error, high-ranking President Barack Obama administration officials spent years covering it up. Attorney General Eric Holder, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and a litany of other government officials claimed repeatedly that disclosing the reason Ibrahim was detained, or even acknowledging that she’d been placed on a watch list, would cause serious damage to the U.S. national security. Again and again they asserted the so-called “state secrets privilege” to block the 48-year-old woman’s lawsuit, which sought only to clear her name.”

    The rest of the article is even more repugnant.

    • Attorney General Eric Holder, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and a litany of other government officials claimed repeatedly that disclosing the reason Ibrahim was detained, or even acknowledging that she’d been placed on a watch list, would cause serious damage to the U.S. national security. …

      Serious and increasingly terminal self-destructive serial damage is continually being done to destroy the shadowy non-state actors and businesses which rely on and make profit from the myth realised and virtualised and perceived and presented as U.S. national security, by those who have assumed or been appointed to offices in which they are both incompetent and unable to make changes for the better, both for themselves and all others who would be relying on them.

      Mr Clapper is just but the latest iteration of a being in the Harry Limelight of the 4th Director of National Intelligence and totally unfit for future virtual[ised] Great Game command and control purpose, which is where IT and the Internet is now at in these Cyber Space Times of Live Operational Virtual Environments. And it be extremely naive and quickly destructive to doubt such facts and their fictions and the dire straits that be caused to nations by that and/or those in traditional seats and at the older, but still relatively newly established and formerly more analogue remote levers of power and global assets direction via a positive paper wealth accumulation and/or lavish spending.

      Y’all might like to consider the next new great wave of revelations to cause panic and mayhem, concern and consternation, markets rout and fiat financial meltdown with unparalleled knock-on effects beyond effective present status quo power brokerage manipulation and salvage, is not any covert and clandestine interception of superbly sublime and supremely sensitive, [for classified systems type marking with an APT moniker such as would be Mk Ultra Secretive AIMagic and Prime MetadataBase] messages with information and intelligence on systems and methodologies for phishing and phorming information and intelligence for presentation of future realities, but its sudden free appearance for all browsers and operating systems across all smarter virtual machine platforms and systems into new media programming with user friendly interfaces. ….. for Simply SMARTR Post Comment Threading of Valid Vital Vibrant Tales Following Leads which Truth cannot Deny is ITs Prodigious Progeny and Wild Child Offspring …… with Fabulous Fabless Facts Fielding and Fielded and Funded as Fine Fickle Featured and Fleet Footed Fictions for Financing Factions Formulating Future Factoring Supply of Present Generation Programming with Productions and Placements Fielded and Visualised in Sight and Sound News and Current Events.

      Who and/or what Controls ITs Future Time Present Space Command though is a rich vein of advanced thought for media milking and bilking and for Cyber Space Command and Creative Control of Computers and Communication to deny any and all knowledge of. :-) [Poes Law rules invoked] :-)

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  29. Fear is the great tool of the government. When I was drafted during the Viet Nam war the fear rational was that we had to fight the enemy over there or we would be fighting them here. The justification for the Viet Nam war was a lie. 50,000 young american men dead, hundreds of thousands wounded, hundreds of thousands of suicides for the vets and we have learned nothing except that we love war and that fear will always trump any rational, logic or anything that resembles humanity. Those who said we would have to fight the enemy here were correct. We have become the enemy.

  30. Rand Paul made an insightful statement when asked in a recent interview about his opinion on prosecuting Edward Snowden. His reply to paraphrase: He said that justice cuts both ways. Before we go after Snowden we need to hold Clapper fully accountable for lying to Congress etc. . Shouldn’t there be bars overlaying that photo of him.

    A country where justice depends upon position and status is neither free nor righteous.

  31. This isn’t news, wasn’t it reported over a week ago? Give us something to sink our teeth into, if you’re sitting on 50,000 NSA documents, let some of them loose. I checked the “Documents” tab and there are no NSA docs linked in there that we can read.

    I guess $250,000,000 doesn’t get you what it used to. You might as well be reposting and recycling pieces from other sites if you’re going to report week old news as “new.”

    This place may have “hit the ground running” but it sure landed with a thud.

    • I disagree with you Mr. Oboe On 54th Street, because even if it is old news it is good news! That’s what makes it worth repeating. Besides, maybe not everyone read it the first time; I know I didn’t and was happy to read it for the first time. There’s a reason why the mainstream news media repeat certain articles and events.

    • He is still employed by the Governemnt and needs to be removed, I think this story should be repeated over and over ,by all the media until he is removed

  32. Americans are way too dumbed down. They’ve allowed the destruction of our democracy and the corporate takeover of government. As a result…. well… nothing happened. Or should I say nothing good happened. America is now an evil empire. Voting won’t help…talking won’t help. We have to cut off the head of this evil serpent, but that’s not possible anymore. America is all done. Next?….. read mein kampf.

  33. Glenn,
    A thought has occurred to me regarding the Christie scandals. Surely the NSA has all of the digital and phone records stored, so my guess is that the investigators already know the full story. I have no sympathy for Chrisie’s organization, but it does point out just how tenuous pleading the Fifth is for citizens if they have revealed their secrets electronically. It now appears to only be a game of getting the conspirators to admit their guilt without having to reveal that the government already has the goods on all of us. What a Boone to “Law Enforcement”!

    • What about inside information on Wall Street? Politicians in both Chambers of both parties are paid modest salaries compared to CEOs or Wall Steet traders yet they end up as milionaires. Despite the recent changes in the law making insider trading by those on The Hill illegal, as it has always been for the rest of us, it is still almost impossible to expose these crimes. There should full transparency of all assets owned and acquired by politicians and intelligence/military officials and their families so that corruption can be in public view.

  34. Glenn, you have the right idea to try to inform the people of the truth, but perhaps you should be trying to instill some fear into them about the true terrorist threat they face – our own security system.

  35. I find it a crying SHAME that the technical know-how exists (such as HAARP can be used for good humanitarian purposes such as eliminating pollution etc) and many other advanced systems and YET the US. Gov’t in particular can’t see the wood for trees, it seems they would rather burn the trees down completely than help their OWN fellow man.

  36. We engaged Vietnam to sell helicopters and today’s hot products are drones and missiles.
    Would anything change if Clapper et al were Geo-Located?

  37. GG has real courage. Clapper’s real fear is not that a brave young man named Edward Snowden is revealing secrets that may give so-called terrorists (ref. J. Scahill’s informed documentary “Dirty Wars), but instead that the NSA/CIA/DIA are means and conduits by which American big business obtains, uses and profits from information otherwise unobtainable. Fear is used to turn eagles into gulls, but America’s intelligence services have always had the dual role of creating scenarios and threats to justify vast defense spending on one hand, and to ensure economic advantages to American big business. Follow the money.

  38. The Democrats used to not stand for this abuse of our rights.

    When will we have an awakening ?

    When will people of conscience stand up and be counted ?

    I wonder…

    • The crimes are so endemic and invasive and come so relentlessly that it’s like trying to stop a deluge with your finger in the dam.

    • These crimes are so invasive and endemic and come so relentlessly that to stop these crimes is like putting your finger in a dike.

    • Instead, we have the Washington Post publishing stories about how everyone on the side of liberty and freedom is somehow dealing in stolen property. If I have to steal my freedom to get it back, is it theft? That is what they used to accuse African slaves of, back in the day. Escape meant theft of property – the slave was stealing himself from his master.

  39. first to @Jason Harman -
    I really like your idea of getting security-related stories in one place. I’m not on facebook, so I hope you do get another site up and running. Be sure to let us know.

    To Glenn and all involved – Congrats on a successful launch and some great stories (and those pictures!).

  40. quote:”When Daniel Ellsberg disclosed the Pentagon Papers, Nixon officials repeatedly smeared him – with no evidence – as likely working in conjunction with Russia (sound familiar?), while he and the NYT were repeatedly accused of damaging national security, ” putting our men and women in uniform in harm’s way”, and helping America’s enemies.

    Putting our men and women in uniform in harm’s way. unbelievable. Well WHO put them in “harms way” when Bush& lied to the entire world about Hussain’s “WMD” and 100k innocent Iraqi’s and 5k American/coalition soldiers lost their lives…hmmmmm?

    WHO put them in harms way when Bush/Obama decided that a barren desert full of 7th century patriots of their OWN country, Afghanistan, were on the verge of harming America..hmmmmmm? How many lives have been destroyed during this war by USG psychopathic leaders…hmmmmmm?

    The living proof is 50k names of American soldiers, on a 1/4mile long slab of stone in WDC, all of who lost their lives from the lies spewed by their military superiors at the behest of the psychopathic executive branch liars who ultimately cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent live.

    The only question left is….when do we break the encryption of mass delusion in ‘merica???

    I submit, you don’t have much time left America…in the intersteller cosmology sense of course…… the Dumbest Country On Planet Earth(DCOPEtm) continues on it’s path of ruling class claim of legal imperialism no different than the 1st Chinese dynasty to King George 111…you just don’t get it.

    • Good point Mr Wallace, and one that really nails it. It’s pretty evident that the ruling elite made up of the corporations and bankers who by virtue of their control over the nation’s, and the world’s, economy, control the political structure. The career politicians elected (questionable) by the people are nothing more than pawns bought and payed for by the elite to make sure their interests are protected.

  41. If it were up to me, I’d sentence Clapper to Crapper for life. How did these sociopaths get into decision making positions anyway?…. teabagger’s handlers. “Tain’t funny though… especially when the shit hits the fan. Coming soon…. as in today… fact based reporting via Greenwald and his crew. Great!!!

  42. We’re all well aware of the hyperbolic rhetoric our elected and appointed power brokers foist on the populous. Please report on the profiteers who are bilking US taxpayers and other countries’ taxpayers of treasure by their efforts to perpetuate needless conflicts.

    Who profits from perpetual conflict and arms sales? Who do they lobby and back with their political donation?

    Until the money trail is fully exposed, the populous can not remove them from office.

    A little help please?

    • “Who profits from perpetual conflict and arms sales?”
      Defense contractors, and all who produce goods whose demand is fueled by periods of armed conflict, profit from perpetual conflict. Meanwhile domestically, privatized prisons’ lobbying groups push for inhumanely harsh sentencing standards, so as to perpetuate needless conflicts at home just as they are perpetuated abroad. There’s money to be made in any (capitalist) world, and so there’s money to be made in a world of continual conflict. Ultimately, whether we’re assaulting ourselves at home via the War on Drugs, or we’re assaulting our brothers overseas via the War on Terror, there is always money to be made, and always people to be making it.
      Because this is a democracy, those people lobby with that money. Because this is America, they control with it.

    • If “all is well aware” then why are polls still loaded with people who buy into the MSM stenography? Fact is, everyone is not “well aware.” If they were then things would not be as they are. The airwaves, letters to editors, internet blogs and so on are filled to the rafters with people who write or speak in ways that show them to be not at all “well aware” that they are constantly being lied to by “elected and appointed power brokers.” Aside from that, Clapper himself is one who profits from his own lies. Same is true of many of the others in positions of power. The money trail – while specifics are always great to have discovered and exposed – is not all that complicated or mysterious. There are detailed lists of who profits from perpetual conflict and arms sales. But this particular article was written about Clapper, partly because Clapper is front and center in making accusations and an argument for prosecution of the author of this article, and other journalists. Every article won’t be about your favorite subject.

      • Surprised at your reaction to a simple request that there be more information about the profiteers. You are doubtless right, that there are lists compiled of these people, corporations, but they are not known as well as puppets and whipping boys like Dubya and Clapper and Cheney. If more people in the U.S. could see the clear trail between profiteers and government officials and elected government representatives, would there not be a healthier debate about the excesses of the defense and national security industries? By focusing only on the puppets in front of the video camera, we lose scent of the movers and shakers.

        • “Surprised at your reaction to a simple request that there be more information about the profiteers.”

          In that sentence and the rest of your reply to me you’ve completely misrepresented what I wrote. I have nothing to add to what you can simply scroll up and read.

          Greenwald had a specific reason for writing this specific post about Clapper and his accusations and claims of “accomplice” about Greenwald and other journalists. That’s what his post was about. If you and the other person don’t want Greenwald to bother writing about what he chooses to write about, but instead always write about what you choose for him to write about, that’s your privilege but I don’t agree with it.

        • Surprised at your reaction to a simple request that there be more information about the profiteers.

          A little context might help (I hope). There are a number of Glenn’s commenters who have been with him since The Olden Days of Salon (and even before) who are very familiar with a certain type of commenter who poses ‘requests’ to Glenn. Most of the time, these are honest pleas for information on a given topic that is near and dear to the proposer’s heart but that may, or may not, be something that Glenn feels comfortable addressing.

          Glenn has stated his interests over the years many times, even posting them on his blogs for folks to see, and dropped into threads to clarify numerous times, that he chooses his topics carefully based on his strengths and interests. The fact that he chooses not to write about a given topic shouldn’t be taken as disrespect, though it often is.

          Over the years these kinds of ‘requests’ – which often devolve into ‘demands’, then escalate into challenges and insults if perceived as being ignored – have also become a tool by which some commenters attempt to derail given threads and/or the focus Glenn has chosen for his column. And the manner in which they are posed is often quite disingenuous, so some folks look a bit askance at that whenever it happens because it can be hard to tell a commenter’s intent at first glance. The inimitable Presumptuous Insect actually created an image that perfetly captured this phenomenon years ago called,

          href=”http://smg.photobucket.com/user/diannaruggles/media/glennsquirrel.jpg.html”>the Glenn Squirrel.

          Given the above, Glenn is pretty open to others raising discussions in the comment threads as they choose, and has even encouraged those who felt quite strongly about a given topic to write about it themselves. He just simply can’t address it all himself.

          • Thank you, Pedinska, for putting it into perspective. I’ve only had the pleasure of reading Glenn Greenwald since he published the Snowden revelations, and I like so many others appreciate what he and his team have done to poke a hole in the fabricated reality. I am sincerely interested in more depth, and also, curious about how to constructively push against the corporate/government behemoth that blockades any meaningful progressive changes. But certainly, I do not insist that any one journalist is or should be responsible for reporting anything more than she or he is prepared to report. Thank you again for the clarification.

        • Yes, let’s name some names; starting with the 85 individuals who own as much as the world’s poorest 3.5 billion people. They are obviously benefiting greatly from (and are obviously behind) NSA spying as well as the environmental destruction of our planet.

  43. In his book “Virus of the Mind”, Richard Brodie, defines “FEAR” as the primary, followed by “SEX” and “FOOD”, “Trojan Horse”, that is loaded with associated memes, in order to attract the attention of the masses. We are genetically wired, our primary impulse is for “self preservation”. Therefore the, “we are here to protect you from the terrorists (Hello Kitty and My Little Pony), we need to keep everything we do secret, journalists that are exposing our secrets, are compromising your safety and endangering the lives of Americans, therefore, journalists are traitors who collaborate with Hello Kitty and My Little Pony”. When the “FEAR” impulse kicks in, evidence is not required. The same applies to “SEX” and “FOOD” to a lesser degree.

  44. Congratulations on the launch of the site. I think you need to broaden and strengthen the debate a bit with a few series of articles. First, this giant ~$20B machine was built to find OBL as its primary objective. It is reasonable to assume that this was the primary objective. Further, it is reasonable to assume that many algorithms were created to find him. False positives probably occurred. Did the existence of this program hinder finding him? Why did the program fail in its primary objective and what does it tell us about the usefulness of the program? Suggested format: Panel discussion.
    Second, Turnkey Totalitarianism. This term has been used by Snowden and other NSA whistleblowers. There is an assumption that people know what it means, and know how it relates to the NSA discussion. Other large concepts such as “Pre-crime” and the difference between Google having data and the government having on an individual need further discussion.
    Third, given the data that the NSA has collected what kind of algorithms is it expecting to create? What are the problems with relying on these algorithms given a small data set and a data set as large as the NSA is collecting? What are some fundamental problems with creating algorithms from data whose originator knows the data is being examined by a set of algorithms. For these questions, you really need to recruit experienced computer scientists and perhaps draw comparisons to algorithmic battles that occur in the financial markets.
    There are other topics and sub-topics of these topics, but these are my main suggestions.

  45. This highly funded NSA program (as well as the DIA, CIA, and whatever other alphabets are involved) could not prevent the Boston Marathon bombing, despite the fact that the Russians themselves handed us the information about the Tsarnaev brothers and we basically said “no thanks”. Why? Were they actually WANTING to see if they could pull off a quick “marital law” situation in Boston? Remember seeing heavily armed men in black, busting into houses in Boston, looking for Tsarnaev? I don’t get it.

  46. The growing mistrust of our government by people who are becoming increasingly aware of its nature, is producing fear in the ruling class resulting in increasing methods of securing its own survival and interest. My experiences of crowd-control training I received while in the army during the Viet Nam protests prevents me from dismissing out-of-hand some of the conspiracy theories about FEMA camps, etc.,. It’s a zero-sum game in which increased security for the ruling class is less freedom for those ruled. It’s also a feedback loop which will result in the collapse of “civilization”.

    • Right on the money… Unfortunately, they have no intention of ending mass surveillance in any way shape or form. In fact, they are full speed ahead and expanding into new areas: license plate scanners and public wireless networks. There is no end to doing good…

  47. Glenn, I have thought about how they have used fear and propaganda a great deal also. The parallels between Nazi Germany’s techniques and what we have going on here are uncanny and undeniable if one takes the time to learn the history. I also can only understand how the US media is acting because I am familiar with what Operation Mockingbird was. Do you think as I do that there is a possibility that CIA is deeply embedded in journalism as it was during the Church and Pike committees? It would be great and I believe beneficial to maybe include some stories with history lessons in them, things that we have learned about the past from the freedom of information act and such. People need to know that this is not going on because of “terrorism” it is standard operating procedure they just have tightened the noose a little more.

    • If what you mean is the way that England, zionists, and USA lied, broke laws, and spread massive propaganda to demonize Germany, then you’re right on target.

      If you still believe that Germany was the major propagandist in the first half of the 20th century, they you have not challenged yet taken control of your own thinking; you are still under the control of t he brainwashers.

      Charles Lindbergh was absolutely correct in his Iowa speech when he said that the English, FDR, and zionist Jews wanted war against Germany.

      Flip thru A J P Taylor’s history of the origins of WWII — Hitler was the convenient whipping boy for said English, Americans, and zionists.

      Doesn’t the very fact that the history of that era is so zealously firewalled — “gatekept” — against explorations of alternatives narratives cause you to question what huge guilty secret is hidden behind it? Every prosecutor who’s worth his sheepskin knows that the first door you knock down is the one that’s being barred most vigorously.

      Forget about FOIA for a moment. The first thing you need to Free is your mind, for a lifetime of brainwashing.

    • Exactly what are these “parallels” between “Nazi Gerrmany’s techniques”? Do you really know what you are talking about based on research & comparative analysis, or are you just repeating what you have heard over a lifetime of Hollywood movies, television programming, and one-sided history?

      Has it ever caused you a moment’s consternation that any version of the WWII narrative that does not comply with the dogmatized version is criminalized (in some nations) and a taboo in others, including in the USA?

      Any prosecutor who is worth his sheepskin knows that when a door to possible evidence is zealously blocked, it is precisely that door that must be pushed in; that is the door that barricades the truth.

      • the patriot act is a copy of a Hitler document,it lined up on 99 out 100 points, see The End of America by Naomi Wolf

  48. put an old fashion German uniform on Clapper and he would look just like the rest of the inner circle of the Nazi party.

  49. So frustrating. I understand why people resort to name calling, seek violent retribution and cry for “armed revolution.” But I must remain above that fray. What I don’t understand is why some Americans continue to claim one side (GOP or Dems) is better than the other.

    Government = oppressor. Until now we’ve had no alternative. Humanity + technical advancement currently can enable humanity to run civilizations without government. We can free ourselves from people who concentrate power, then use that power to oppress us. What’s more, we can do so while allowing despots and political liars to be as they are: we simply take away their “toys” through a systemic redesign.

    Copiosis is the only system I’m aware of that can do this in a smooth and orderly way. It offers the powerful a way to recover their humanity and preserve their wealth while neutering power and influence that wealth buys today. Meanwhile, it makes everyone else instantly wealthy, leaving them free to pursue what we all ultimately want: Self Actualization.

    I understand why we we’re so beholden to the status quo though it is so flawed. To date, it’s all we’ve had. No longer.

    • I agree, Perry. It seems we keep thinking that the answer to social problems is to use the violent power of government to control dysfunctional people – which in turn creates more need to control those who, because they value freedom over security, resist the violence (sometimes using violence as a method of resistance). It’s a downward spiral leading to collapse.
      It is the system which is dysfunctional and which need to be transformed. I’ve been looking at several possibilities for change, and I agree with you, that http://copiosis.com/ seems to be the most viable.

  50. JSintheStates wrote:

    “What I fail to understand is how a fear- and war-mongering person like Clapper ever passed the psych review when he applied for a security clearance!”

    it’s really rather simple to understand: his psych review determined him to be a PSYCHOPATH thus confirming that he’s a perfect candidate for a high-level position in the US government…

  51. This is the most disturbing and telling comment Clapper made:

    …We’re beginning to see changes in the communications behavior of adversaries: particularly terrorists. A disturbing trend, which I anticipate will continue . .

    You see, the adversaries (that’s all of us) are doing what we can to change our online habits to make the Collect It All approach less effective. As for the terrorist (and criminals), the secondary targets of the federal government, they must always be mindful of their communication methods…

  52. Anyone who knew of Bill Binney’s ordeal knew that Clapper was a liar before the echo of his words died down in the room where he was giving his testimony. Ed Snowden’s revelations just provided independent confirmation.

    • Not only that, that he still holds office indicates how badly broken our system is. Sooo frustrating. This piece has me thinking whether “terrorist” is a specter government uses to maintain control. Hard to refute that assertion.

  53. I just want to say thanks. Also, I appreciate that the comment box is relatively anonymous. We dogs appreciate the ability to enter human dialogue on equal terms.

  54. The dark side at its worst… Agents acting with impunity and total disregard for traditional values.

  55. Chomsky is another gatekeeper who pretends there are no gaping holes in the 9/11 Commission Report. In fact, Chomsky once went so far as to call it irrelevant if 9/11 was an inside job. Greenwald, Froomkin, Scahill, Poitras all believe that KSM spoke the truth after 70+ waterboardings, and neatly tied up all loose ends. Snowden too. They pretend Kean and Hamilton are nutty truthers for discrediting their own 9/11 Commission Report.
    Fake courage is all we get.

    • Gatekeeper for what exactly? An office at MIT? He’s never on any major media outlet. He’s never been on one of those dreaded Sunday morning news shows. He has no sway with the military. Not sure who he’s keeping out.

  56. Let’s talk about all the ways that forcing terrorists to communicate differently is a good thing. Does it slow down their communications? Will the communication pattern change actually help shine a light on targets? Does it allow us more time to do in-field investigations? Did it actually take the Snowden reveleations to wake up terrorists to the governement’s eavesdropping power and disregard for the law? If terrorists steal something of value because of weakened encryption put forth by the NSA, doesn’t that make the NSA terrorists?

  57. Have you been in touch with Clapper or his office about supplying evidence to support his claims? If so, what was there response?

  58. Glad to see another story up within two days of the first.

    This story stops a bit short of where it ought to.
    Clapper the liar is a traitor to the US Constitution – but this isn’t addressed.

    Further, the disinformation peddled by security agencies is putting American and other innocent lives at risk.
    The drone programme is one aspect of that, but there are other instances of non-combatants being framed and assaulted in a practice based on shoot-first-ask-later. I would stretch this to the misguided assassination of a Brazilian national on a London subway train a few years back.

    The people and organisations who lie to Congress and put innocent lives at risk are actually subverting due process and constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. When Clapper calls someone a criminal or a traitor, that judgement should come back at him in spades.

    I would have hoped you’d conclude your article with something of that sort.

    • True. This is where it comes down to courage and conviction. We know the facts, that there are people in positions of political power who knowingly are committing crimes of the highest forms with impunity. These people know that they have nothing to fear or worry because they hold the reigns of power and everyone else is not going to challenge them in any real way. What one has to understand is the nature of this power – our whole state “apparatus”, a system set up to allow it. Then you have those who know it’s wrong but lack the courage to challenge these people because they’re cowed by that system.

  59. Glenn,

    Love your work. Perhaps one thing missing in all your wonderful analysis is the ends to to this means, i.e. the ultimate motivation of all this power is the wealth this generates for the few.

    I’ll never forget peering over the steps over the ocean beach dune in the Hamptons in Long Island, NY being nudged to do so by a very wealthy hedge fund manager who was amazed at the wealth of the 40,000 s.f. ocean front compound on tens of acres of the most expensive real estate in the world.

    The hedge fund guy said be quick but you got to see this place. There’s a synagogue and bowling alley on the grounds. But be quick he said. Security will be on you quick. Sure enough they were.

    The owner of the estate I was told, was the former owner of the maker of the Humvee for the military.

    War is a racquet.

    Thanks again for what you do.

    • Doesn’t this faux response out of Clapper et al actually aid the enemy by suggesting weakness and helplessness? This pathetic lament reveals the double-bind into which the propaganda falls–a flag waving excuse is contrived as pretext for intimidation, or “the chilling effect.” Why not show us one piece of evidence to support the hand-wringing so that we can mend our ways and cooperate?

    • He’s not the only one. There are thousands of people in powerful positions conducting themselves similarly. Granted, it’s human behavior to act this way. History proves this. When such acts are combined with concentrated power, results are catastrophic.

      Human behavior can’t be changed. Context can influence it though. The current context fails because it perpetuates behavior we would rather have minimized. It’s time to create a better context, one that produces positive human behavior. Some have told me it can’t be done. Those who say it can’t be done, should bother those who are doing it. Enter: Copiosis.

      • I think we can make a good case that the Clapper-type response (and Rogers recently on the “fencing” accusation applied to Glenn Greenwald) is pretext or cover for the real intentions of their spying programs. They’re covering deeper objectives with flag-waving and self-righteousness. On a basic, common sense level, how could such a massive, expensive, resource draining system as the NSA be effectively (I could have said sanely) directed at a relatively few terrorists vs. specific targeting of credible suspects through cooperative investigation of expert sleuths in relevant agencies? This is the flimsy cover that must be protected with emotionalism and flag-waving.

  60. This is the quote from Clapper that I find most disturbing.

    …We’re beginning to see changes in the communications behavior of adversaries: particularly terrorists….

    What Clapper is upset is that the People of the world (The Adversaries) are changing their behavior with the tools they have available to them right now; oh, and terrorist are changing their methods of communication too (secondary target).

  61. During the Bradley Manning trial even Gates said the information he leaked did no harm to any soldiers. I was surprised he was so honest but, of course, this wasn’t widely reported.

  62. Thanks, GG, for reminding us of those comments by Cheney and Bush. I could not have located them on my own.

    If anyone’s looking for a very useful book on the issue of fearmongering, read Corey Robin’s 2004 *Fear: The History of a Political Idea.* I read it back when it first came out, and it has stuck with me ever since. And if you want to know just how much mileage politicians can get out of crying “security!”, just review the past few decades of Israeli history — especially whenever Washington’s generous annual donation of between 3 and 5 billion US dollars to Israel.

  63. Luckily, I don’t live in the US but I read on the internet a couple of months ago that the Administration had ordered a billion bullets for the National Guard (last year), is this true? And if it is, why???

    • It was over 2 billion bullets, and they were purchased by the Dept. of Homeland Security. Most of the bullets were hollow point ( dum-dum ) rounds which are illegal for use in warfare. Such bullets were – and are – also bought in large quantities by TSA, NASA, the Post Office, the meteorological service, and NOAA, among others. These agencies have nothing to do with policing or national defense. The US Govt. runs a program that supplies local police departments with military weapons (machine guns, grenade launchers) and armored vehicles. As for why – why does any government supply its domestic agencies with military weapons? DHS claimed it was for target practice, but some of the targets they bought for practice were “no hesitation” targets, of old men, pregnant women, and children (with guns).

  64. Glad to see Glenn’s column back, and happy to have a central place to comment again. Good job to all!

  65. What I fail to understand is how a fear- and war-mongering person like Clapper ever passed the psych review when he applied for a security clearance!

    • I would wager the people managing security clearance procedures are self-same characters!

    • Its becoming extremely apparent that having sociopathic tendencies and a distinct lack of empathy (along with their resultant cognitive deficiencies) is a major prerequisite for selection and advancement to positions of control and critical decision-making.

  66. Do you think the Intercept might also be the perfect forum to publish Noam Chomsky?

    • “I mean even if it [US GOVERNMENT
      COMPLICITY IN THE 9/11 ATTACKS] were true,
      which is extremely unlikely, who cares? I
      mean it doesn’t have any significance.” -
      Noam Chomsky

      • What he probably means is that it wouldn’t have any significance compared to all the international violence the US is already known to be responsible for. Chomsky is not someone who thinks American lives are more valuable than others, or that Americans have more rights, etc.

  67. In Breaking Bad Series the bad guys relied almost exclusively on cell phones. Our logical man-of-science Walter was out in the desert “all alone” where no one could find him or Jesse cooking meth. All the while their cell phones were connected to a tower.
    Their smart lawyer had a drawer full on phones (all on) when he conducted his meetings with clients. Did anyone see a refrigerator?
    It would be interesting to compare the greatest TV series to our heightened awareness of reality. The NSA would tell the DEA to intercept the motor home. A fake cell phone tower would gather all the metadata from every phone. The phones microphone and camera would be used to eavesdrop. Federal agents would track the phones and nail, Walter, Jesse, Gus and Saul with their own words. Then made-up parallel construction would be used to fool the clueless judges and prosecutors. “Seeking the Truth” would make for a great movie.

    • I’m guessing Bruce Schneier would have similar objections to the phone security on Breaking Bad that I had to medical science on House where medical students/interns performed elaborate, exacting lab analyses every single episode. At the hospital I worked at even the attendings (other than the Inf. Dis. docs) would have had trouble finding the lab, let alone actually getting results out of anything.

  68. The official reaction to the Wikileaks dump of Bradley Manning’s documents was the same: “This will get people killed.” I specifically recall ABC’s Martha Raddatz saying exactly the same thing on behalf of the Pentagon, with whom she (and her career) had become so thoroughly embedded in Iraq.

    Of course, the most ludicrously unbelievable part of it all is that the U.S. government, the intelligence services, or the military care anything at all about human life when it gets in the way of their goals.

    • Meanwhile, people all over the world are dying at the pointy end of fear-mongering policies.

      The Intercept is a great outlet. It is revealing how broken our systems are, how rife they are with people equally broken unconsciosly creating greater levels of privation and oppression in the name of National Security.

      When enough people get fed up, when enough people realize we have better, wealth-producing-planet-protecting systems such as Copiosis, they will en-masse end this situation. I look forward to that day. Some have told me it can’t be done. Those who say it can’t be done, shouldn’t bother those who are doing it. Enter: Copiosis.

  69. I hope this People’s Treaty can be considered as an alternative to morally bankrupt Governments. The full text is available.

    The People’s Preamble
    We, the people, human beings, a definition which excludes artificial human beings, assert the symbolic power to ratify the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) outside of nation states. The UDHR was adopted by the United Nations in 1948 as a common standard of achievement for life on earth. The people ratify the treaty as an alternative form of redress when State Governments refuse or fail to fulfil the social contract with citizens to bring peace, fairness, freedom and just treatment of human beings. Human beings in unity with indigenous communities assert the right to self-determination and duty to uphold the meaning and the tenets of the treaty.
    We, the people, assert the right and agree to uphold the original definition of property rights. The nation states who have signed the Declaration have not as far as we know applied the full definition of property to include a human beings right to: work, free choice of employment, just and wholesome working conditions, protection against unemployment, just compensation for his work and a standard of living adequate for the health and well being of himself and his family. State Government should provide sufficient food, clothing, housing, medical care and social services and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, old age, widowhood or otherwise rendered by circumstances beyond his control incapable of earning a livelihood. Some Governments and corporations have directly and indirectly denied or removed property rights in contravention of the UDHR and imposed austerity measures to the detriment of human beings.
    We, the people, assert the right to own, protect, access and defend natural resources from exploitation and destruction. Human beings have been denied their right
    to mutually own, protect and freely access natural resources for the benefit and protection of the many and safeguard resources from depletion, exploitation and destruction by profit making bodies despite the detriment to human beings.
    We, the people, assert the human rights of human beings and reject all human rights granted to artificial human beings. Companies, corporations, any form of profit making bodies have been granted the status of artificial human beings without the moral and legal responsibility imposed upon real human beings. The protections afforded to such legal entities and the officers of corporations and companies are unfair. This has resulted in the creation of unnatural and unjust laws, which have created a two-tier human rights system that has turned the human being into a second-class citizen. Legal bodies who have granted corporations and companies artificial human status and access to human rights have acted arbitrarily and
    in contempt of natural laws and natural justice. Such decisions are contrary to customary law and have been made without the consent of human beings.
    As Thomas Jefferson says: “It is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural rights. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labor and live on. If for the encouragement of industry, we must take care that other employment be provided to those excluded from the appropriation. If we do not, the fundamental right to labor the earth returns to the unemployed”.

  70. If expenditures for public safety were rational the National Heart Association and Center for disease control would be getting 17,600 times the funding of the NSA, because that’s how much more likely you are to die of heart disease than from a terrorist attack. And the NSA has yet to prove it has stopped any terrorist attacks whatsoever.

  71. So delicate on GG’s part.

    Only 1 mention of the Obama, who has been president for the last 5 years. And NO MENTION whatsoever of Clinton although I clearly remember the cad loudly complaining about the NYTimes outing of the satellite telephone surveillance.

    I guess it is OK when Democrats do it….

    • Only 1 mention of the Obama, who has been president for the last 5 years.


      You appear to be unaware that James Clapper is President Obama’s top national security official, which means the entire article is a condemnation of the Obama administration.

      That said, you are absolutely right: I am known for my reticence at criticizing President Obama. I’m trying hard to rectify that.

      • Criticizing Obama is like criticizing Jay Carney. Obama is just a mouthpiece for those who actually run this country, those usurpers from the Bush administration who never gave up power.

        • To accuse GG of refusing to mention Obama is merely to reveal one’s ignorance of the vast array of GG’s writings.

          To defend Obama in any way is merely to reveal one’s ignorance of Obama’s rapidly growing mountains of sleaze; in the case of “those usurpers from the Bush administration who never gave up power,” Obama has consistently refused to accept their resignations – Clapper but the latest of those until electorally paranoid D party senators prevailed upon him to let Clapper flap his trap outside the office.

          Note that Clapper now is so paranoid for his useless life, as has been Dick Cheney since stepping down from VP slot, Clapper, like Cheney, cannot stop flapping his trap about the same old nonsense he was addicted to all along – NONSENSE JUST LIKE CHENEY’s!

          Obama seems to be GWB/Cheney on steroids: addicted to being Wall Street’s puppet-in-chief.

      • That said, you are absolutely right: I am known for my reticence at criticizing President Obama. I’m trying hard to rectify that.

        C’mon Glenn. The people who think they know everything about you by reading just one or two articles you’ve written are in a really tough spot. They don’t know whether to excoriate you for kissing Bush’s ass or humping Obama’s leg! I mean, what’s a critic to do???

        It will be a lot easier once you all get the [snark], [/snark] tags working. ;-}

      • For my part good sir, the scant degree of reticence you thus employ, despite your ‘confession’, is commendable. (:>} Fear not, President Obama may yet himself dispell any further hard rectifications.
        Cudos to you and your associates for this important resource; and I am looking forward to being a subscriber as soon as it is possible to become one.
        As Usual,

  72. As I predicted on the morning it happened, the people in power in the U.S. have used that attack as an excuse to create even more of a police state than had already existed here. As long as people are fearful instead of brave, they’ll accept whatever lies are spewed by people like Clapper, Bush, Cheney, and Obama. Americans need to grow a pair and quit being such cowards, sacrificing freedom for safety.

  73. @ Glenn, just in case you didn’t see it, the “quote-of-the-day” yesterday belong to James Clapper, director of “National Intelligence,” no more no less. During testimony on Tuesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee, besides the well-placed for sound bite effect “perfect storm” analogy, Clapper said that, ““Our whole system is based on personal trust,” as a way of explaining the possibility of yet another leak of Snowden proportions. The “perfect storm” bite diverted attention from the second time Clapper lies to Congress, this time asserting the whole “intelligence” infrastructure is based on “trust.” I am sure you could write volumes about that “trust,” and the “intelligence” behind.

    Good luck with the new venture, may “The Intercept” take us to new and unknown coordinates, and may Poitras, Scahill and you lead the ship with firm hand through hazardous, rocky, stormy waters.

    J. MacGiver

  74. I have to admit that since the Snowden disclosures, the TERRORISTS note know we are looking for them, attempting to track them down, and kill them. With this secret information, they are impossible to combat. The TERRORISTS are now an extinction level threat to our people and our democracy. To save our democracy, we will be suspending all future elections. And to keep our people safe, we will institute martial law with a dusk to dawn curfew. Long live democracy.

    • Extinction level threat? Really? Impossible to combat? It sure sounds like you have accepted messaging this article decries. Democracy (indirect democracy) is exactly the problem causing things we suffer from today. That and capitalism. I for one expect democracy to soon die a painful and sudden death. The sooner the better.

      Is that unAmerican? Hell no. We are the land of the free. We deserve a better and more effective system, one that does not create power concentrations enabling people like Clapper to indulge in behavior which foments undue fear. Innovations such as Copiosis can do way better with what we have today. Some have told me innovations such as Copiosis can’t be done. Those who say it can’t be done, shouldn’t bother those who are doing it.

      Long live democracy? Long live innovation!

  75. This guy Clapper forgets that if it wasn’t for the fact that the surveillance carried by the NSA went far beyond spying on suspected terrorists, these stories and maybe even this website wouldn’t exist. The fact that journalist like these at intercept exist, and especially that Snowden exist, it is because they were abusing their powers and it is a duty for independent and courageous journalists to expose it! So if anybody in these stories is guilty of endangering US’s National Security are people like him who abuse their powers and make them liable to be exposed!

  76. So, the reason he does not set up a Enabling Act(Ermächtigungsgesetz) and burn first the books and then the parlament is because he already have secred courts to change the interpretation for every law and he loves the show, the hearings?

    I watched these people on Youtube(Feinstein, Tubin, Fleischer, King)talking blunt peasant’s cunning in the news pannels, or so called news – and Glenn most eloquent american lawyer ever is arguing conclusively and gives reasons to be ashamed. Every european guy whould leave the TV Set because Glenn is always unchallengeable right but these peopele wron’t gu they keep on telling something they practiced before the show – acted in front of a barthroom mirrow?

    But voters in the US are undoubtly bying that show, because 3 big macs a day and 6 times a day on toilet, 4 sitcoms and 5 soaps making them docile. they are what they eat. but there is hope – most of them are not born whithout a mind. Sad thing is College Education in the US is not for the masses some people control the masses linke in the middle ages .

    I also set up a semi-professional Art Projekt http://karlnielz.wordpress.com against these blunt culture

  77. I suspect a concentration on appealing to the general public (the masses as one commentator calls them) in the hope of getting real change is almost fruitless. Achieving little even at federal election time when the corruption of big money determines most if not all results. To get change at the federal level we need to concentrate on the actual members of congress, the executive, and the Judiciary. And we need to affect them personally. Such as threatening their re-election chances (invoking the recall measures when possible), their reputations by exposing their attitudes and voting patterns, and so on. They will react when suddenly they find themselves vitally affected by the spotlight. We need to get at the power brokers, hit them in the gut. Supporting this web site is a good thing, but really supporting by being involved is even better. Send ideas for articles to your favourite journo (mine is Scahill, no offense GG), send hard facts to them so they can develop articles etc, etc.

  78. Such a relief to have GG back on a regular basis!

    I agree with putting new stuff first.

  79. The NSA has gotten out of control. Most people would agree on that. Like other bureaucracies it just wants to expand. Since 9-11 they have been flush with cash, but for good reason. They have an important job to do: to keep us safe. It is not a joke. Terrorism is real: bombings, hijackings, kidnappings, murder. And we do not know what is coming. That is why we have the NSA. So what sense does it make to undermine their core mission: to keep Americans safe by preventing attacks. It makes no sense to publish technical details about NSA programs because it is not doing anyone any good except people who want to harm the US. Yes, Clapper lied, and maybe he is just a pants on fire type of guy. But no one can deny the reality of how important the mission of the NSA really is, and how we all stand to lose big if the NSA is not able to do its job. If the future brings another attack that turns out to have been enabled by Mr. Snowden’s revelations, then how will we be thinking about Mr. Snowden then?

    • What’s real is the fact that lots of people around the world hate US interventionism. Some people are radical enough and/or personally involved enough to want to attack the US and its interests for that reason. It seems there are 2 options really: (1) Attempt to kill, capture or persuade every person who opposes US foreign policy; or (2) Stop being international assholes.

  80. Rand Paul is suing NSA:

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/12/rand-paul-announces-suit-against-obama-administration-over-nsa/?hpt=hp_t2 When it rains it pours.

    Maybe this will fizzle out but between Rand Paul’s NSA Lawsuit and Glenn Greenwald’s continual NSA reports: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/ I see a bad ending for this black president. Cheney and Bush may end up skipping down the street free while Obama foolishly ends up the sacrificial lamb to set things right. If people cared about this President they would have told Obama NO to spying and drones before the doo doo hit the fan but no we’re to busy trying to win the next election for our PARTY!

  81. These notorious war criminals and their accomplices are beyond redemption or decency: let’s hang them all!

  82. We know they are at their wit’s end when they are recycling Nixon, Cheney, & Bush!

    Of course, they never had more than one wit, and it went dead long ago.

    Three cheers for recycling; or, is it, cheers for three recyclings?

    Okay, three cheers for the Clapper Flapper Hacker Snappers!

    May they continue opening their mouths so we can more readily discern when they are lying and/or just BSing.

  83. “People can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
    –Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg Trial.

  84. Excellent.
    As I was just wondering, after seeing Clapper back in the news again,”How many times do I have to scream “Fire James Clapper!” before anyone in Washington does anything about this guy. Now I will email an excerpt from this piece to my representatives with the all-important link to this web site in the hopes that at the very least one of the young aides will be curious and come here for truthful reporting.

  85. I have a suggestion that I hope gets considered.

    It would be great if the ‘The Intercept’ could serve as a central place to get all national security/surveillance news. Right now we have to search far and wide around the world’s news sources to find out what is going on in our own country, and then we only find it in bits and pieces.

    I am thinking about news about the states efforts to cut off water to the NSA facilities in Utah and Maryland, legislative efforts in Washington and NH to block any cooperation with illegal and unconstitutional NDAA-related indefinite detention, court judgments such as the one today ruling that the DEA cannot access Oregon’s prescription drug database without a warrant, state legislation to regulate how scanned license plate data is stored and shared with Fusion Centers, etc.

    There is so much happening so fast and most people are missing out on learning about most of it. This should be the go-to place for that info. We desperately need a central place to go to keep up with all the related developments. I hope someone seriously considers this idea. Thanks!

    • Great suggestion & I hope this web site can pull it together – and, alas, they will need lots of help with links to information feeds.

      We need to know all we can about the war the Clapper Flapper Snappers (Dick Cheney, Peter King, Diane Feinstein, Barack Obama, Rahm Emmanuel, Bill & Hillary Clinton, et. al.) have declared on ordinary Americans because we are so ordinary, I guess. They cannot believe we are all not a bunch of ‘turists,’ the latest incarnation of that same figment in the professional paranoid’s imagination that used to be ‘communis’ and heavens only know what they will come up with next.

      Why can they not go after all the grotesquely criminal capitalists and professional liars in their midst? Good question, if I may say so. That is because they are all professionals at lying to themselves, so lying to everyone else comes second nature – they are convinced they have a monopoly on the truth. Unlike all other humans who live with their own fallibility, that professional paranoid cult’s members all know they are inhumanly infallible.

    • I currently administrate a facebook group that does almost exactly what your comment suggests.
      It’s an open group so you don’t even have to be a member to read what is posted but membership is required if you would like to post or comment in the group.
      I have also started a Facebook page dedicated to The Intercept that is more focused on the reporting and reporters of The Intercept but does post stories from other sources that Glenn tweets about. In the future we will do the same for stories promoted by all the The Intercept’s reporters.
      If you don’t use Facebook I do hope, at some point in the near future, to create a separate independent website that will function similarly to the Facebook outlets mentioned above and would hopefully be what you are looking for..

      • The irony of using a facebook page to aggregate content regarding NSA slurping up info from private companies is almost too much to bear. It

        It will take you one hour to learn how to get a domain and a shared web host, preferably located in Iceland with a company solely based in iceland. Another hour to figure out wordpress. You could then at least know that your users aren’t absolutely 100% subject to the most draconian monitoring in the universe, though of course there are other ways to do the monitoring and my suggestion does not make for some uber-secure setup — the difference is that an agency would still have to actually do something to do the monitoring whereas with Facebook, they’ve got a mainline right to the data and can just passively collect.

        • @hemocyanin I understand that it’s not at all difficult to set up a website or blog. One reason that I currently use Facebook is that it has over one billion users that connect through the service. Facebook can make it easier o establish an audience and also connect with people who may not come across this information in their day to day internet activity. I am well aware that it is not a secure service and understand how you could find the idea “too much to bear” or even laughable.
          However the page got the 300 likes and the group gained over 200 members in less than 48hrs, without any paid promotion. All I had to do was invite a few friends and they have spread it from there. Facebook sucks in many ways but it is not entirely useless.

      • facebook now deletes things they dont like and have been for quit sometime,. I also believe even though I have no proof the government uses it and people that post to censor web sites and make lists.

      • He lied to Congress, He should be removed from his job and convicted for it. We can not fix this broken system, untill correct things start happening. The MM media gets people to believe most of the lies by repeating it over and over. I think this subject should keep coming up until this traitor is removed.
        Thank You Mr Greenwald

    • Yes, a great idea, annenigma. The broader range would create more exposure here. Be wonderful to watch the popularity of this site grow, grow, grow.

  86. A muckraking model based on supply and demand suggests that a critical mass of investigative reporting will once again occur in American society only if and when there is a confluence of two disparate historical forces: public demand, created by some combination of political, economic, and social turmoil; and media supply, most likely the result of new technologies and journalistic competition aided by a tolerant legal climate. If history is any guide, both of these divergent streams must come together simultaneously before society will experience the kind of muckraking heydays that previously occurred in other eras of American history. Until then, while the occasional journalistic dissident can be counted on to expose and oppose those in authority, such coverage seems destined to be the exception rather than the rule. In the meantime, in substance if not style, more docile journalism seems likely to prevail. - Mark Feldstein [emphasis mine]


    That bolded bit is of concern.

  87. There used to be a time when the big outlets got beat on a story, that they would pick it up anyway and credit the originator. No such luck when the celebrity media is trying to figure out what to do with a story that might make things a bit uncomfortable at the next cocktail party with their government chums.

    That drone story was incredible. The silence from the rest of the media is deafening.

  88. What is a credible reference to understand the events of 9/11? Does Glenn endorse the 9/11 Commission report? Because the two chairs of the commission do not.

    • Good question. I’d imagine that based on Glenn Greenwald’s anthrax reporting, he probably has a lot of unanswered questions about the 9/11 attacks themselves. Scahill already said 9/11 conspiracy theories were an insult to victim’s families, but I wonder if he’s seen ’9/11 press for truth’ a movie about the 9/11 family steering committee which uncovered numerous lies and coverups regarding the commission report.

  89. Kudo’s to GG and everyone who contributed to creating this fine new site.

    Interesting and refreshing to note how the Disqus commenting system was not chosen.

  90. Finally some real antagonistic reporting. Should get some journalist thinking about doing their jobs properly, maybe this will remind them what that job is.
    Great column but twitter and Facebook sharing aren’t working for me or I would share. I’ll check back later and try again.

  91. From the heartland of America:

    Letter: American tyranny

    Why should James Clapper, Obama’s Orwellian director of national intelligence, be prosecuted for lying to Congress about the NSA, which is a felony?

    Or to bring it back home, why am I fighting billionaires Paula and James Crown, owners of Aspen Skiing Co., JP Morgan Chase, and the merchant of death, the world’s fourth largest global arms manufacture, General Dynamics?

    Bullying is as old as time. The petty tyranny against our brave ancestors caused the American colonies to take on the powerful British Empire.

    The central tenet of America’s founding was: The rule of law would be the equalizing force, the ultimate guardian of justice. We’re all equal before the law.

    Justice is blind. No man is above the law. We are, in the words of John Adams, “a nation of laws, not men.”

    Our founders considered inequality to be inevitable. Some would be rich; many would not. Some would achieve great power; most would not. Some individuals would be naturally endowed by God with unique and extraordinary talent, while most people would be “ordinary.”

    Thomas Jefferson wrote of “a natural aristocracy” among men, based upon “virtue and talents.” The one exception was the rule of law: the “level playing field,” a universal set of rules. It was, in the words of attorney and journalist Glenn Greenwald, “the nonnegotiable prerequisite that made all other forms of inequality acceptable.”

    The founders believed that only if everyone operated under the same rules would outcome inequality be just. To the founders, nothing constituted a greater threat to our republic than to allow this inequality of wealth or power to determine the treatment of citizens before the law.

    The law can ensure that the elites are subjected to its dictates on equal terms with the powerless. Jefferson argued that the essence of America was that “the poorest laborer stood on equal ground with the wealthiest millionaire.” Thomas Paine wrote that “the true and only true basis of representative government” is equal application of the law to all citizens: rich and poor, strong and weak, elites and peons, homeowners and renters.

    Without equal application of the laws, Ben Franklin warned that society would fracture into two tiers: the “favored” and the “oppressed.” The result would be “great and violent jealousies and animosities” between these classes.

    Equal application of the law to our financial and political elites is a prerequisite for a free and cohesive society. James Madison wrote that it is “one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together” and warned that once it’s missing, “every government degenerates into tyranny.”


  92. Who knows where the comment section is in process, or what it will look like next week… but for those scrounging for html tags… it kind of looks like these might work. At least for the basics of bold and italics…

    • italics: replace i with em
      bold: replace b with strong
      Not sure about underline … if that last word is underlined then it’s a simple u

      • Here is an italics
        Here is a bold
        Here is an underline…maybe
        Testing to see if those all work.

        • The bold didn’t work because I forgot to use Strong, Like this. I used the ol’ b out of habit.
          The underline didn’t work because apparently u is not how it is done here.

  93. What do you call a career dedicated to the Post-9/11 political landscape that NEVER questions ANY aspect of the Official 9/11 Fairy Tale Narrative?

  94. What is maddening to me is that James Clapper isn’t laughed out of the room in congressional hearings. HE’S A CONFESSED PERJURER. Why do reform-minded Senators like Ron Wyden maintain civility and professional regard for Clapper? It’s deeply disheartening that Wyden is the best civil liberties voice we have in the U.S. Senate but he still doesn’t have the backbone to look a perjurer in the eye and call him what he is.

    • Every answer James Clapper gives should be challenged by the follow up question “Is this the truth, or merely the least untruthful answer you can give?”

      • Agreed, I normally let someone lie to me once, before I never believe a word out of their mouth again

  95. This website should get some legs . If the truth hurts , so be it . Hopefully this voice will be heard from the rooftops to all ears . There truly is nothing wrong with transparency .

  96. The other factor that I think is important is the fact that there’s really no political upside for talking about the problem of what we deem “terrorism” in a rational manner. Case in point is John Kerry’s completely relevant words in the New York Times back in 2004:

    ”As a former law enforcement person, I know we’re never going to end prostitution. We’re never going to end illegal gambling. But we’re going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn’t on the rise. It isn’t threatening people’s lives every day, and fundamentally, it’s something that you continue to fight, but it’s not threatening the fabric of your life.”

    Naturally, this became fodder for the Bush campaign: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/10/bush.kerry.terror/

  97. Peter King and Mika decide that Snowden chose Russia and Russia has all the Snowden files.

    Morning Joke 2/12/2014

  98. GLENN! I missed you! Welcome back to regular columnhood.

    I would also note that in addition to having no evidence that these revelations helped terrorists, there’s also the fact that none of them were targeting terrorists. They were targeting random, innocent people, and in the case of the NSA, millions of us. The line between the innocent and guilty is divided by evidence, and if you spy on everyone, than you can make a case against virtually anyone, especially when the standards are low. As far as genuine terrorist threats, it’s absurd to think that terrorists weren’t already guarding their e-mail or phone communications or assuming that they were being watched.

  99. The challenge that we all face is that those who seek to control and dominate us believe that we can’t keep up with their stealth attacks and assults on our freedoms and rights. They believe that by the time can we gather our information and figure out what happened they will be off and running on another attack and another. Look how long it has taken to uncover, reveal and share the information about what happened on 911. Even now the majority of Americans are afraid to face the truth because it rocks the foundation of their belief system in who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. We need to be able to speed up the turn around of information. A new way of dealing with these attacks is essential to our freedom. We have to cut through the lies and get to the truth out faster and not allow the big media mind control spin doctors to tell us that black is really white. We need to get the public informed faster and equipped with new creative ways they can really make a difference and respond right away. We need a new and dynamic system of response to these “control and dominate” attacks on our liberties. Those who seek to control us will use our own ethics and morals against us to destroy all who oppose them. We need to rise the bar higher and higher and NOT lower and lower. May the INTERCEPT help us imagine new steps and ways to get at the TRUTH for the good of all humanity. We need to envision what has never been, something beyond what these evil heartless minions could ever conceive of. Our freedom depends on our love and our soul inspirations brought into actions.

    • This site is still a work-in-progress and we can expect refinements later. I have found that I must close the site completely and revisit before my posts display. Reloading or going to other topics within the site do not update the comment section for me.

  100. “We’re beginning to see changes in the communications behavior of adversaries: particularly terrorists. A disturbing trend, which I anticipate will continue “. . Here, Clapper is obviously referring to the American public and their attack on the NSA’s spying world wide. When a regime takes over, those citizens who work to reinstate their democracy automatically become part of the terrorists trying to get them. Are these people schizophrenic or something like that?

    • Fear, uncertainty and doubt motivate people. The military minds call it by the tla, FUD. It sadly works on the programed and confused. And btw, don’t insult schizophrenics or confuse them or the illness with psychopathy. Psychopaths and sociopaths run the world, not schizophrenics.

  101. Glad to see this up & running and with a great staff!! Don’t let the bastards get you down!

    • From the heartland of America: http://www.aspentimes.com/news/marijuana/9832632-113/law-equal-inequality-tyranny

      Letter: American tyranny

      Why should James Clapper, Obama’s Orwellian director of national intelligence, be prosecuted for lying to Congress about the NSA, which is a felony?

      Or to bring it back home, why am I fighting billionaires Paula and James Crown, owners of Aspen Skiing Co., JP Morgan Chase, and the merchant of death, the world’s fourth largest global arms manufacture, General Dynamics?

      Bullying is as old as time. The petty tyranny against our brave ancestors caused the American colonies to take on the powerful British Empire.

      The central tenet of America’s founding was: The rule of law would be the equalizing force, the ultimate guardian of justice. We’re all equal before the law.

      Justice is blind. No man is above the law. We are, in the words of John Adams, “a nation of laws, not men.”

      Our founders considered inequality to be inevitable. Some would be rich; many would not. Some would achieve great power; most would not. Some individuals would be naturally endowed by God with unique and extraordinary talent, while most people would be “ordinary.”

      Thomas Jefferson wrote of “a natural aristocracy” among men, based upon “virtue and talents.” The one exception was the rule of law: the “level playing field,” a universal set of rules. It was, in the words of attorney and journalist Glenn Greenwald, “the nonnegotiable prerequisite that made all other forms of inequality acceptable.”

      The founders believed that only if everyone operated under the same rules would outcome inequality be just. To the founders, nothing constituted a greater threat to our republic than to allow this inequality of wealth or power to determine the treatment of citizens before the law.

      The law can ensure that the elites are subjected to its dictates on equal terms with the powerless. Jefferson argued that the essence of America was that “the poorest laborer stood on equal ground with the wealthiest millionaire.” Thomas Paine wrote that “the true and only true basis of representative government” is equal application of the law to all citizens: rich and poor, strong and weak, elites and peons, homeowners and renters.

      Without equal application of the laws, Ben Franklin warned that society would fracture into two tiers: the “favored” and the “oppressed.” The result would be “great and violent jealousies and animosities” between these classes.

      Equal application of the law to our financial and political elites is a prerequisite for a free and cohesive society. James Madison wrote that it is “one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together” and warned that once it’s missing, “every government degenerates into tyranny.”

      Lee Mulcahy


  102. I will never understand these claims that the Snowden disclosures are helping terrorists, harming America, or revealing tradecraft. From the people that make the claims, to the stenographers who repeat them, the claims fall apart upon scrutiny.

    Anyone wishing to partake in nefarious deeds is well aware of what our security apparatus is capable of. These folks already practice concealment to avoid surveillance, and if they don’t you would have to question how much of a threat said halfwits actually are. The disclosure of the Snowden documents has had no tangible effect on the ability of terrorists to operate in secrecy.

    What is significant is the fact that we now have proof of our government’s wrongdoing. Most of us who have educated ourselves are not surprised by the NSA revelations. What we are surprised by is the extent to which we now have the ability show beyond a reasonable doubt that our wildest fears were indeed accurate. Our government is breaking the law, and folks like Glenn were right all along.

    When Clapper made the claim that terrorists are changing their tactics in response to disclosures made by news organizations across the globe, he was lying. Again. He makes it sound as if dozens of terror networks have suddenly gone dark. If it really took the Snowden leaks to make that happen, I would suggest we didn’t have much to fear from terrorism in the first place.

    Keep up the good work, Glenn.

    • What you’ve done is employ logic to understand the situation. Many of our fellow Americans have already learned to turn that annoying part of their brain off when they hear the word “terrorist”.

  103. Where’s Glenn? He always used to take part in the discussions, one of the most interesting aspects of his blogging!

  104. Figures they would try and copy Cheney’s play book. I expect we will see some sort of terror operation broken up soon or actual “attack” that proves their spying is justified and protecting us from terrorism.

    Might be time for journalists to start reporting using aliases and disseminate their stories through intermediaries since it appears we are heading for a authoritarian police state that will declare war on those who dare report their crimes.

  105. We truly find ourselves suspended in what Giorgio Agamben called “the state of exception,” one defining mark of which is a “regime of the law within which the norm is valid but cannot be applied (since it has no force), and where acts that do not have the value of law acquire the force of law.” (http://www.egs.edu/faculty/giorgio-agamben/articles/state-of-exception/). Thus Clapper is received as if he embodied some sort of legally justified authority, when he does not. And those outside the government, then, who do speak for the real value of law can be viewed as threats by the state, and so become “neither prisoners nor accused, they are simply detainees, they are subjected to pure de facto sovereignty/to a detention that is indefinite not only in its temporal sense, but also in its nature, since it is outside of the law and of all forms of legal control.” (Ibid.) Citizens, reporters, revolutionaries, enemy combatants, innocent bystanders–all become indistinguishable in the state of exception, caught up in the dragnet of surveillance and intimidation. Figures like Clapper are in a a-legal zone, one in which force is justified if it preserves the self-perpetuating powers of those who protect (not the republic built on the rule of law) but the regime of the state of exception to the laws of the republic.

    • James , they have already done this . The owner and operator of Megaupload has been illegally held under house arrest in New Zealand since 2012 . In January 2012, the US Agents and New Zealand Federal Police conducted a terrorist raid on his home . Over 70 black uniformed US and New Zealand troops with two helicopters , machine guns , armored vehicles , etc . placed him in custody in response to US charges of criminal copyright infringement in relation to his Megaupload website. Dotcom was accused of costing the entertainment industry $500 million through pirated content uploaded to his file-sharing site, which had 150 million registered users.Kim Dotcom has vigorously denied the charges, the US has still not filed official documents to start the deportation process . Despite legal action still pending over Megaupload, Dotcom launched a new project/website named “Mega” in January 2013, opened to the public exactly one year after Megaupload was shut down. It is a cloud storage service that uses encryption to protect users from government or third party “spies” from invading users’ privacy. A recent meeting held by Three Obama Cabinet Secretaries , certain members of congress and some Hollywood bigwigs had them changing the accusations from copyright to facilitating child porn . Bush and Obama are two sides of the same corporate coin . The government we have had since 911 is working to seize all control over us . They use fear , the false flag operation , the corporate owned press to accomplish their agenda . The mentally lazy , selfish ( driven by the consumer culture ) , fearful , dimwit masses fall into kneejerk lockstep like sheep . Those few of us who do not have become the enemy of the Corporate/Federal government . We are now in a time very much like the fall of Rome . The masses only want their football and fastfood ( bread and circuses ) The masses call intelligent cultured people elitists while sneering . I’m a veteran , an independant , I can’t stand extremist on either side of the fence . I’m a gun owner who supports reasonable gun control , I’m Christian and straight but worked for 5 years in CA. for civil union , etc . etc . Point is I’m not a wingnut on either side but , I say we are in DEEP SH!T people !!! I fear the masses won’t wake up in time to stop our government from becoming the new USSR :(

  106. If what Clapper, Alexander, Cheney, Rogers, Feinstein and all the other fellow travelers who hate accountability to the public says is true, then Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler were correct that democracy is an impractical, undesirable and above all inconvenient form of governance.

    • Governance perhaps SHOULD be inconvenient – the only true democracy is consensus. Otherwise, policies will alienate and anger a significant percentage of a community, in which case, it cannot remain a community.
      Two-party system in the US has long appeared to be pretty much a single-party system, in which slight differences in social distribution have occurred.
      Predatory and deadly policies toward any who have not participated in the exploitative agenda, have always been the norm, and the society still uses dehumanization and derogation to arrogate everything which inhibits exploitation on an ecologically or individually unsustainable way.

      I do enjoy Glenn’s continued emphasis on “fact-free” argument, as used by those who completely deceive millions, and who instead use vacuous, propagandistic , inane, yet dangerous meaningless terms like patriotism. Mark Twain did say that it was the last refuge of the scoundrel. This nation is composed of more gu8ns than people, who own those things exactly because they do NOT regrad themselves as participants in a community.

    • I gather it was Churchill who said “it has been said that democ­racy is the worst form of Gov­ern­ment except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”.

      It might go without saying that democracy should be inefficient; that efficiency is the rationale of authoritarians (be they benevolent or despotic).

  107. I’ve noticed that the latest tactic is to publish eBooks on Amazon to do the fearmongering and discrediting (the Russian spy accusations, based on no evidence). The scary statements in the press and at hearings was not having the desired effect. The articles written by intelligence community shills didn’t work well enough either. So now they’re resorting to long screeds of speculation in eBooks.

  108. the times did indeed do tremendous damage to the country by reporting the eavesdropping scandal…by waiting until bush was safely reelected to do it.

  109. Keep asking publicly and at every opportunity “When is Clapper going to be prosecuted?” Don’t let that one rest, keep hammering away at it. If nothing else at least other officials will get the idea that maybe someday they could actyally be held legally accountable.

  110. I don’t doubt that Clapper believes every word he is saying. After all, we’re at war with a shape-shifting entity know as Terrorism. This is exactly why we’re entitled to a civilian government rather than a military security state with little more than a deferential layer of civilian oversight.

    To quote Madison from the Federalist Papers expressing his concern about military in comments before the Constitutional Convention in June 1787:
    “In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive, will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

    • “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive, will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”


      If we only had statesmen like Madison today who would counteract our own ‘overgrown Executive’ and his overzealous and corrupt executive spy agencies.

  111. Would have been a much better article if GG didn’t taint the brginnng with his personal invective. GG, you need to remove yourself from your reporting, even when you are the story.

    • Couldn’t disagree more. This is Glenn with his pundit’s hat on as much as a reporter’s — not a straight NSA reporting piece.

      His passion and assertiveness is a huge factor in what has made him so popular and brought him so far. I for one don’t ever want him to lose his unique, take-no-prisoners voice.

    • @colin

      “Would have been a much better article if GG didn’t taint the brginnng with his personal invective. “

      Could you please quote which bits you felt were “personal invective”? Because the beginning was filled with links to articles written by other people which appear to be factually accurate to me.

      p.s. apologies if my attempt to use italics fails. Just trying to plumb the depths to see what tools we may have for making comments easier to read/understand.

    • “GG, you need to remove yourself from your reporting, even when you are the story.”

      In this story, his name’s not Clapper. And he’d look pretty silly publishing under a pseudonym, say, “Publius.” Or “Bland Pallbearer.” He has a point about cartoons, and the disdain is reasonable enough.

      And don’t call him Shirley.

  112. I really wonder what would be the outcome, if there was a fair trial on the wars of agression, humanitary crimes, lying and fearmongering to the own public, by the standards of the nuremberg trials.

    • Only the losers are ever tried for war crimes. The winners create their own history.

  113. Glad to see Glenn writing opinion pieces again.

    Comment about the site: Wouldn’t it be better if newer articles were listed first on the front page?

    • Apparently, the straight news pieces are going to be located under the News banner at the top of the page. Glenn’s blogging pieces will be located under the Glenn Greenwald banner at the top of the page.

      Kickin’ the tires, and checkin’ the floor mats, and stydyin’ the dashboard… lookin’ for the controls.

    • Agree completely. I nearly missed this article because the front page ‘news’ didn’t change on the ‘site’. I only found it because of Glenn’s twitter feed.

  114. That the claims of government officials are generally self serving is a truism. But when the press repeat and amplify those claims, they are rewarded with access to top officials and advance information on breaking news. So the mainstream press is forever locked in a naive posture of credulity in the face of official claims. Snowden’s documents have revealed that instead of spying on terrorists, the NSA is spending its considerable resources collecting masses of information on average Americans and citizens in allied countries such as Brazil and Germany. While knowing the NSA isn’t doing its job may embolden the terrorists, it is somewhat disingenuous to blame this state of affairs on Edward Snowden or the journalists who have reported the stories. The US government may express fear and loathing when it is confronted by the truth, but it generally recovers and finds new ways to obfuscate.

    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
    H. L. Mencken

  115. Thrilled to see the majority of comments on The Intercept show a much more refined understanding of geopolitical and militaristic intent, cause and effect. There was a small part of me that was starting to wonder if this was it for us, that we’d crossed the rubicon as an educated citizenry. The never ending assault of the main stream media’s propaganda machine has been so effective in its divisive intent, that its rendered the majority of our nations populace intellectually inert. Independent journalism is at the heart of our Constitutional Republic. Considered so important by the founders that it was rightfully enshrined in our first amendment. Secret courts, secret rulings and secret laws are now used to justify the abuse of not only the individual citizen, but of the press that dares to question this imperial presidency, all under the guise of our own security. This is a portion of the speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961. I find the event title “The President and the Press” and the audience it was for, quite apropos. The speech was given before the American Newspaper Publishers Association.
    “The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.”

  116. Has anyone gauged how well this tactic of spreading lies about “helping the terrorists” works on the general American public after all this time?
    I mean, it can’t really dupe them still, right?

    • “It may be true that you can’t fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country” – Will Durant

  117. As a youngster I’d argue a lot with my sister, she’s 10mths my junior, the usual sibling rivalry and I was a bit of a bully. She’d get her own back by taunting me when my mum was there, this would make me angry and when I got angry my nostrils would flare, she’d mimic this and laugh, my mum would laugh too because I was so mad yet unable to retaliate, I wanted to kill her.
    By the time we were 15 and 16 this was all history, I’d stopped bullying, she’d stopped mocking.

    If Clapper and the gang are really concerned for the lives of service personnel and US citizens there’s an easy fix, get the fuck out of other people’s countries, stop killing their men women and children, don’t try to manipulate their governments..
    The fix is so simple that two children were able to work out that removing the cause, stopped the effect.
    Of course they know all this, you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid not to. So any loss of life is unequivocally their doing, and all the finger pointing in the world won’t change it.

    • Exactly. It really comes down to how you treat your neighbors. If your neighbor sprays you with a hose for once again cutting through his yard, do you buy a gun so you can continue to use the shortcut or do you use the sidewalk like everyone else.

    • A lovely read. It’s one thing for someone to get on the No Fly List because a single FBI agent screws up filling out a form. The bigger issue naturally are the multiple Federal officials who lied in swearing that it would gravely harm US national security to reveal why she was on the list. Now if only the Judge could/would have assessed sanctions or declared that they’d committed a fraud on the court or perhaps perjury!

      • She should absolutely seek damages. At best, what happened to her amounts to negligence at all levels.

  118. Its not only political officials who hate transparency. So do companies (or anyone with money or power). The Valley was complicit in NSA, and as BHO has pointed out the Valley hoovers up plenty of personal data which it monetizes for its own benefit. If you want transparency from government, you also need to be hawkish to the same degree about transparency from your corporate backers, their pals and their companies about all the things they are up to.

  119. Thanks Mr. Greenwald for calling out those journalists who unconditionally support the baseless propaganda put out by governments all over the world.

    • Are many of these so called “Journalist’s” actually actors, puppets, or Stars from so called press? I get upset some are called a journalist. Thank you Glen and Co.. Free Snowden, Manning and many others.

  120. The justification for the transparency freak-out highlighted here and the drone targeting of Glenn’s last article are the same: We Are At War! Perhaps the most discouraging part of the Obama era is the failure to challenge this Bush post 9/11 mantra. Nor, of course, will Hillary. The capture of the US Government by the military is complete. The necessity for Greenwald/Intercept type criticism will seemingly never diminish.

    • The capture of the military by the US government is also complete. Obama has fired more generals and other military personnel than any other President. His comment that He’s good at killing people is correct. Maybe its time for 3 branches of government. A free and unopposed Press branch. I vote for The Intercept branch :}

      • And did Congress declare the war? If they didn’t, then we’re not at war, legally, since only Congress can declare war. Every time a surveillance-stater says “we are at war”, journalists and others should ask them, “What do you mean ‘we’, Kemo Sabe?”

    • Barack Obama voted YES on the FISA bill amendment that extended retroactive immunity to the telecoms for their role in illegal surveillance, and effectively legalized such surveillance. Hillary Clinton voted NO. What if we’d actually had a president who stood up and said enough?

  121. The free press has always been the nations watchdogs of government over reaching. To keep something secret in the name of National Security when it only allows for more secrecy is not Democratic. Ours is a nation of citizens run by citizens. On 911 Dick Cheney was playing war games and had Norad standing down. He never wanted a 911 commission. Our secrecy keeps the citizens from knowing what their elected officials are doing. Investigative journalism is and always has been part of checks and balances. Great day when The Intercept can expose these liar’s and thieves!

  122. I know the weather’s a bit “weird” lately, but (Spell check, aisle 3!)
    “Northwester University”…?

    Suggesting the current crop of stenographers demand evidence? – pfffft. As if they’d listen to somebody nobody in D.C. likes, anyway.

  123. Great work you guys that’s the way reporting is done thanks for the hard work. Love from Danmark

  124. I believe Kim Dot Com has done nothing wrong let him get on with his life plus they had right enter his home, it’s seem the USA can do what ever they like to who ever they like, they are nothing but stand overs

  125. Clapper and the Washington mafia is trying hard to deflect the lies and calling it truth to the mainstream media. How do we get this story to the mainstream media?

  126. Don’t be so quick to encourage the MSM to step up to the profession of journalism; give us some time, as readers, to determine which of the outlets must be regarded as irrelevant and which remain legitimate news sources.

    • Unfortunately we have had this chance for over a decade of 24/7 cable news, and increasingly tired parroting from network news, and increasingly link-baiting, biased sites more focused on celebrity and scandal than details and real life consequences.

      I’d say let them all work to gain credibility; the competiveness should yield overall better news for us all. I’m just glad the Intercept is here and currently fighting for what actually matters.

  127. The fight is going to be long and painful. The only way to undermine the monstrosity these people had created is to build an alternative; as much as The Intercept is being an alternative to the subservient trolls (a.k.a. mass-media) and their lies, we need to build an alternative political parti(es), an alternative economy, an alternative currency, an alternative communities, based on every individual’s freedom…

  128. “These same platitudes have been hauled out by U.S. officials for decades. When Daniel Ellsberg disclosed the Pentagon Papers, Nixon officials repeatedly smeared him – with no evidence – as likely working in conjunction with Russia (sound familiar?), while he and the NYT were repeatedly accused of damaging national security, putting our men and women in uniform in harms’ way, and helping America’s enemies.”

    But the Ellsberg and Bush-era NYT stories are different, and THIS TIME we can believe the govt claims about the Snowden disclosures, because [infinite list of derp].

  129. The real danger is to the military-industrial complex, which thrives only in an atmosphere of fear and blind faith in the benevolence of the privileged secret holders.

  130. Thanks for the historical perspective on those who gin up fear against truth-seekers of what government does in our name… this might get more attention at the top of the page, instead of below previous articles?

  131. “Terrorists and other adversaries of this country are going to school on U.S. intelligence sources, methods, and tradecraft.”

    He’s right! And all you peons better fall in line! Because everything the federal government does is legal, right, moral, dignified and in the interests of the public! And don’t you forget it!


    Washington Post “journalist” Walter Pincus

    • It appears at times the only terrorist and other adversaries of this country is the federal government. Drones and kill list of American citizens is proof of that.

    • I was a Navy Radioman for 20 years and had a Top Secret Crypto clearance. What proof is there that Ed Snowden and other ‘Whistleblowers’ are leaking info that would harm our Men and Women if uniform as well as CI’s that are helping us?

    • Ah, it appears someone has cloned the Pincus Puff Producer and dropped one into the comment section. Exxxxxxcelleeeeent!